Erwin: every book i have ever read. even more so every book i have ever written. the one that changes me the most is the one i have not yet written. http://leadershipblog.blogspot.com/2006/07/leadership-
“Those who study science have told us that a butterfly fluttering its wings in South America could, in some sense, be the primary cause of an avalanche in Antarctica. This level of complexity strikes us as new and innovative, and yet the Scriptures have advocated this kind of interconnection for thousands of years....”According to Scripture, everything is connected, and every action has at least some effect on the whole. In the same way the church is part of the whole....” (Erwin McManus, An Unstoppable Force (Group Publishing, 2001), p. 15.)
Erwin McManus – visionary pastor of Mosaic, filmmaker, and best-selling author Leonard Sweet – futurist writer who leads the church in encountering the next generation of ministry.
"Friendship is a vital part of New Testament ministry and leadership. In fact, I am convinced that we have been unwittingly shooting ourselves in the heart."
"People know I am willing to sacrifice and do whatever is necessary to be a significant voice and influence in Los Angeles and allow this to permeate across the world."
Erwin shared alot about his early mistakes in leading what was known as the "Church on Brady" at the time - now called Mosaic.
"If you're trying to be relevant, you are already behind. We are agents of change creating the future that God is imagining."
Rather than being relevant, we must focus on the "primary" aspects of life and ministry. A creative person can work wonders with primary colors. We can work wonders with the primary things - the essence of what it means to follow Jesus.
RM: You've said in the past that "Scripture is God through the improvisation of people’s lives."
EM: Well, I build my life not on the Word of God, but the voice of God. The Scriptures are to me the instrument that God has placed in history for me to learn the voice of God. I treasure the Scriptures.
EM:"...Only the viable church of Jesus Christ will survive, the inauthentic need not apply. I want to live in the world that if the church is not the revolution that Jesus died to establish 2000 years ago it ceases to exist. I want to live in a world where the church has no more crutches, or buffers to guard her from injury. I want a church where a culture no longer protects her..."
FM: What have you done to learn about postmodernism?
EM: “When your grandfather teaches you reincarnation and your grandmother teaches you that Jesus is Lord, you aren't taught postmodernism, you are postmodernism.”
FM: What advice would you give churches that want to minister in the postmodern age?
EM: “The most revolutionary thing you can do is call people to pray. Pray for the emerging church and young pastors and the churches in the future that make you uncomfortable.”
Often spiritual leadership is calling God's people to relinquish the past and move into what God's already doing!
When I moved to L.A. in 1992, I discovered that a journey of 20 years is as treacherous as a journey of 200. While we weren't trapped in the traditional era of hymns and robes, we'd settled into a 1970s groove. The church had been a forerunner in so many areas and was known for its innovation. Yet the journey from The Church On Brady to our future as Mosaic was a difficult one. The best way to describe it is that we traveled at the speed of sound to get to the present (the speed of light would have killed us!).
"Peppermint Filled Pinatas is Saving Private Ryan meets Nacho Libre! Eric calls us to a heroic mission and at the same time exposes our flawed humanity. He tackles one of the most critical and complex issues of our time and brings it down to earth and keeps us grounded in reality. It's quite a gift to force us to face such uncomfortable and serious issues and at the same time keep us laughing. Somebody needed to write this book; I am grateful Eric did. We will all be better for it.Thank you Eric for awakening in us a love that knows no boundaries." -Erwin McManus
In his book Soul Cravings, McManus writes that he was invited to speak to a group of Muslims: "I was left with nowhere to go but to talk more specifically and personally about Jesus. I had been describing to them my own sense of disappointment with and even disdain of the religion of Christianity." (source: Soul Cravings, entry 11)
In Soul Cravings, McManus writes, "Jesus once said that the kingdom of God is within us. Yet most of us dont even bother to explore the possibility that this might be true. It seems that what he is implying is that we have a better chance of finding God in the universe within us than in the one that surrounds us. (Soul Cravings, introduction)
McManus writes about religion/Christianity: "Religion, after all, has become one of history's most powerful tools for controlling people. If you were thinking of a strategy to keep people in line, religion would have to be at the top of the list. In this, Christianity has become no different." (Source: Soul Cravings, entry 22)
The Barbarian Way [his book] was, in some sense, trying to create a volatile fuel to get people to step out and act. It's pretty hard to get a whole group of people moving together as individuals who are stepping into a more mystical, faith-oriented, dynamic kind of experience with Christ. So, I think Barbarian Way was my attempt to say, "Look, underneath what looks like invention, innovation and creativity is really a core mysticism that hears from God, and what is fueling this is something really ancient." Erwin McManus, Interview with Relevant Magazine (emphasis added
There is enough proof of God already inside of people... we don't have to prove that to them. "My goal is to dig into the universe that is inside of you and show you the fingerprints of God that are already there." This is the subject of Erwin's latest book, "Soul Cravings."
"Erwin is a huge Chapel Hill fan, even though he lives in LA (he graduated from UNC in 81). He told me that the UNC logo is the most popular emblem in LA, even over UCLA."
“My job isn’t to feed the Christians, so they can feed the sheep,” he said. “My job is to make them hungry so they can feed themselves. The church isn’t here for us. We are the church and we’re here for the world.”
Erwin Said: Starting Mosaic was not easy, McManus said, and many times he wanted to quit. But he always found the people who brought him the most problems were those who never brought a lost person to church.
“My goal is not to keep up with the changing world, but to be standing there waiting for it when it arrives. People are going to need someone to show them the way.” Erwin McManus Pastor Mosaic Los Angeles
“My goal is not to keep up with the changing world, but to be standing there waiting for it when it arrives. People are going to need someone to show them the way.” Erwin McManus
"Mosaic isn’t a new church, she is over 60 years old and I have been here in Los Angeles for over 15 years. The truth of the matter is that what we are pretending is emerging is actually already the effective present"
What Jesus is saying is that you are a portal, an intersection of the kingdoms. And if you want to begin to find the evidence that you are more than just flesh and blood, begin to look inside of your soul.
Frankly, when I did a talk on Hell this week and why Hell was God's most loving act, the nightclub was just packed this week because of word-of-mouth. People were going, "What's he gonna talk about?" What we're doing now is people are e-mailing us questions around the world and I am reading their questions and saying, "This is the subject today" because I got 20 questions on "Is it okay to be gay?" And I just tell them, "Look, I'm not telling you that I'm gonna give you the best answer. I'm not even telling you that my answer is adequate. But I am gonna engage you in a conversation you will want to continue."
Interview with Infuze Magazine: http://www.infuzemag.com/interviews/books/erwin_mcmanus/
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McManus says his "goal is to destroy Christianity as a world religion and be a recatalyst for the movement of Jesus Christ."
4. What books have changed your life?
Erwin: every book i have ever read.
even more so every book i have ever written. the one that changes me the most is the one i have not yet written.
http://leadershipblog.blogspot.com/2006/07/leadership-
“Some people are upset with me because it sounds like I’m anti-Christian. I think they might be right.” Erwin McManus, from The Barbarian Way
“Those who study science have told us that a butterfly fluttering its wings in South America could, in some sense, be the primary cause of an avalanche in Antarctica. This level of complexity strikes us as new and innovative, and yet the Scriptures have advocated this kind of interconnection for thousands of years....”According to Scripture, everything is connected, and every action has at least some effect on the whole. In the same way the church is part of the whole....” (Erwin McManus, An Unstoppable Force (Group Publishing, 2001), p. 15.)
Erwin McManus – visionary pastor of Mosaic, filmmaker, and best-selling author Leonard Sweet – futurist writer who leads the church in encountering the next generation of ministry.
"Filmmaker"?
McManus asks, "Can pastors and church leaders be real friends?...yes, we risk growing close."
Maybe this should be asked of his many past leaders...
"In this community, everyone has a voice - and an opinion! We have the freedom to disagree. We fight - almost always fairly."
"Friendship is a vital part of New Testament ministry and leadership. In fact, I am convinced that we have been unwittingly shooting ourselves in the heart."
"It may require a pastor to fire someone he loves. I’ve had to do that."
Previous 3 comments:
http://erwinmcmanus.com/friendship-dilema
"People know I am willing to sacrifice and do whatever is necessary to be a significant voice and influence in Los Angeles and allow this to permeate across the world."
-- Erwin McManus interview with INFUZE --
Session 4: The Mosaic Story - Erwin McManus
Erwin shared alot about his early mistakes in leading what was known as the "Church on Brady" at the time - now called Mosaic.
"If you're trying to be relevant, you are already behind. We are agents of change creating the future that God is imagining."
Rather than being relevant, we must focus on the "primary" aspects of life and ministry. A creative person can work wonders with primary colors. We can work wonders with the primary things - the essence of what it means to follow Jesus.
http://www.the-next-wave-ezine.info/issue78/index.cfm?id=1&ref=ARTICLES_EMERGING%20CHURCH_8
RM: You've said in the past that "Scripture is God through the improvisation of people’s lives."
EM: Well, I build my life not on the Word of God, but the voice of God. The Scriptures are to me the instrument that God has placed in history for me to learn the voice of God. I treasure the Scriptures.
http://www.relevantmagazine.com/god_article.php?id=6989
FM: "How has postmodernism affected the church?"
EM:"...Only the viable church of Jesus Christ will survive, the inauthentic need not apply. I want to live in the world that if the church is not the revolution that Jesus died to establish 2000 years ago it ceases to exist. I want to live in a world where the church has no more crutches, or buffers to guard her from injury. I want a church where a culture no longer protects her..."
Maybe he should listen to his own words...
http://www.freshministry.org/postmodern/erwin.html
"The greatest threat to the movement of Jesus Christ is Christianity." - Erwin Raphael McManus
FM: What have you done to learn about postmodernism?
EM: “When your grandfather teaches you reincarnation and your grandmother teaches you that Jesus is Lord, you aren't taught postmodernism, you are postmodernism.”
http://www.freshministry.org/postmodern/erwin.html
FM: What advice would you give churches that want to minister in the postmodern age?
EM: “The most revolutionary thing you can do is call people to pray. Pray for the emerging church and young pastors and the churches in the future that make you uncomfortable.”
http://www.freshministry.org/postmodern/erwin.html
“When we focus on church structure, we kill the movement, we need more disorganization, more chaos.”
Erwin likened many churches today to, "...cemeteries - very organized but dead."
http://www.the-next-wave.org/stories/storyReader$330
"When asked if they [Barbarians] are Christians, their answer might surprisingly be no, they are passionate followers of Jesus Christ."
http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/erwinmcmanus.htm
“we are driven by love, driven to love, and even from love.”
EM - SOUL CRAVINGS
"The dysfunctional side of intimacy includes the way we allow jealousy, lust, and bitterness to creep into our souls."
EM at a public speaking event.
Often spiritual leadership is calling God's people to relinquish the past and move into what God's already doing!
When I moved to L.A. in 1992, I discovered that a journey of 20 years is as treacherous as a journey of 200. While we weren't trapped in the traditional era of hymns and robes, we'd settled into a 1970s groove. The church had been a forerunner in so many areas and was known for its innovation. Yet the journey from The Church On Brady to our future as Mosaic was a difficult one. The best way to describe it is that we traveled at the speed of sound to get to the present (the speed of light would have killed us!).
http://www.sermoncentral.com/article.asp?article=a-UnwrappingPresent
People should read the entire "sermon".
-Frank Loaiza
"Peppermint Filled Pinatas is Saving Private Ryan meets Nacho Libre! Eric calls us to a heroic mission and at the same time exposes our flawed humanity. He tackles one of the most critical and complex issues of our time and brings it down to earth and keeps us grounded in reality. It's quite a gift to force us to face such uncomfortable and serious issues and at the same time keep us laughing. Somebody needed to write this book; I am grateful Eric did. We will all be better for it.Thank you Eric for awakening in us a love that knows no boundaries."
-Erwin McManus
http://www.ericbryant.org/blog/2007/02/13/jesus-is-coming-back-and-hes-ticked/#comment-37
In his book Soul Cravings, McManus writes that he was invited to speak to a group of Muslims: "I was left with nowhere to go but to talk more specifically and personally about Jesus. I had been describing to them my own sense of disappointment with and even disdain of the religion of Christianity." (source: Soul Cravings, entry 11)
In Soul Cravings, McManus writes, "Jesus once said that the kingdom of God is within us. Yet most of us dont even bother to explore the possibility that this might be true. It seems that what he is implying is that we have a better chance of finding God in the universe within us than in the one that surrounds us. (Soul Cravings, introduction)
McManus writes about religion/Christianity: "Religion, after all, has become one of history's most powerful tools for controlling people. If you were thinking of a strategy to keep people in line, religion would have to be at the top of the list. In this, Christianity has become no different." (Source: Soul Cravings, entry 22)
“Are we being God’s people who reflect the Christ event to the world?”
http://realmealministries.org/WordPress/?p=243
“The Gospel comes to you to go to a place beyond you.”
http://realmealministries.org/WordPress/?p=243
“The head that nods yes does not equal the heart that says, ‘Let’s go.'”
http://realmealministries.org/WordPress/?p=243
“You cannot do anything meaningful in life without creating conflict.”
http://realmealministries.org/WordPress/?p=243
The Barbarian Way [his book] was, in some sense, trying to create a volatile fuel to get people to step out and act. It's pretty hard to get a whole group of people moving together as individuals who are stepping into a more mystical, faith-oriented, dynamic kind of experience with Christ. So, I think Barbarian Way was my attempt to say, "Look, underneath what looks like invention, innovation and creativity is really a core mysticism that hears from God, and what is fueling this is something really ancient." Erwin McManus, Interview with Relevant Magazine (emphasis added
There is enough proof of God already inside of people... we don't have to prove that to them. "My goal is to dig into the universe that is inside of you and show you the fingerprints of God that are already there." This is the subject of Erwin's latest book, "Soul Cravings."
Go here:
http://jdgreear.typepad.com/my_weblog
and scroll down to:
Whatever it takes: Erwin McManus
"The 2 characteristics all NT churches had in common: heretical and immoral."
Find more here:
http://jdgreear.typepad.com/my_weblog/2007/02/whatever_it_tak.html
"Our church is not seeker sensitive; we're just equally insensitive to everyone."
McManus on Mosaic
"Jesus was about people; not about sermons. He used sermons to help people. Sometimes I feel like I am the opposite."
You are Erwin, you are.
"Erwin is a huge Chapel Hill fan, even though he lives in LA (he graduated from UNC in 81). He told me that the UNC logo is the most popular emblem in LA, even over UCLA."
Really? Since when???
http://jdgreear.typepad.com/my_weblog/2007/02/whatever_it_tak.html
"Christianity as a religion is no better than any other religion."
http://drewmarshall.ca/listen2007.html
(January 27, 2007)
"My wife tells me, 'You don't even like Christians.' - I say, and?"
http://drewmarshall.ca/listen2007.html
(January 27, 2007)
“My job isn’t to feed the Christians, so they can feed the sheep,” he said. “My job is to make them hungry so they can feed themselves. The church isn’t here for us. We are the church and we’re here for the world.”
Erwin Said:
Starting Mosaic was not easy, McManus said, and many times he wanted to quit. But he always found the people who brought him the most problems were those who never brought a lost person to church.
http://www.baptiststandard.com/postnuke/index.php?module=htmlpages&func=display&pid=6104
“My goal is not to keep up with the changing world, but to be standing there waiting for it when it arrives. People are going to need someone to show them the way.”
Erwin McManus
Pastor Mosaic Los Angeles
Source:
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:Jtb0LX3zCW0J:missionallife.org/media/Seminar%2520Notes%2520Website%2520Giveaway%25202-24-06.doc+erwin+mcmanus+doctrine&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=82&gl=us
“My goal is not to keep up with the changing world, but to be standing there waiting for it when it arrives. People are going to need someone to show them the way.”
Erwin McManus
Wasn't that suppose to be JESUS?
GALLAGHER: Pastor McManus says a person can be good and still question traditional beliefs, that religion is more about questions than answers.
Delia Gallagher, CNN Faith and Values Correspondent
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0607/10/pzn.01.html
"Mosaic isn’t a new church, she is over 60 years old and I have been here in Los Angeles for over 15 years. The truth of the matter is that what we are pretending is emerging is actually already the effective present"
http://www.thecronline.com/mag_article.php?mid=1016&mname=June
“Authenticity is overrated. People who are are in jail are the most authentic people. Wholeness, on the other hand, is something to be achieved”
“I want to challenge you to wake up in the morning and imagine a life dreaming for.”
http://koinoniasd.wordpress.com/2007/04/16/erwin-mcmanus/
“Explore nowhere else except deep within yourself…you will come face-to-face with God.”
Erwin ala "Soul Cravings"
"Great leaders are great storytellers, and they make sure that the great story is central in shaping the ethos of the community."
http://erwinmcmanus.com/thespeaker
What Jesus is saying is that you are a portal, an intersection of the kingdoms. And if you want to begin to find the evidence that you are more than just flesh and blood, begin to look inside of your soul.
Erwin's Sermon "Is Faith Nonsense?"
Frankly, when I did a talk on Hell this week and why Hell was God's most loving act, the nightclub was just packed this week because of word-of-mouth. People were going, "What's he gonna talk about?" What we're doing now is people are e-mailing us questions around the world and I am reading their questions and saying, "This is the subject today" because I got 20 questions on "Is it okay to be gay?" And I just tell them, "Look, I'm not telling you that I'm gonna give you the best answer. I'm not even telling you that my answer is adequate. But I am gonna engage you in a conversation you will want to continue."
Interview with Infuze Magazine: http://www.infuzemag.com/interviews/books/erwin_mcmanus/
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